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TouringBubble
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PostSubject: Re: Trail Braking   Sat May 16, 2009 3:30 pm

slowwrx wrote:
TouringBubble wrote:
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You usually use trail braking to cause oversteer in decreasing and constant radius corners where the car won't rotate properly.

Or when the car is set up for general understeer. Trail braking gives much sharper turn in.

This is going to sound kind of Dick but

I've never met anyone fast who set their car up to understeer.

This reference was mostly about restricted racing classes or people in mostly stock cars that are just out having fun. Not ever class has the option to completely remove the push, nor does every "every-once-in-a-while" track visitor care to have a racing setup on their vehicle. I think it's a valid statement.

But, you are right ... if you are setting up a car to be fast, you want it pretty neutral with rotation on demand and slight oversteer when pushed hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Trail Braking   Sat May 16, 2009 3:57 pm

every driver has his/her preferance.

some like it to be understeeing and some do not.
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PostSubject: Re: Trail Braking   Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:48 am

bomjoon wrote:
every driver has his/her preferance.

some like it to be understeeing and some do not.

LOL WUT?

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PostSubject: Re: Trail Braking   Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:49 am

don't indulge his ridiculousities. haha. But i feel like it is easier to let off the throttle while understeering than it is to have to give it the right amount of throttle to save an oversteering fiasco. Sometimes at leats, and from a fwd perspective.
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PostSubject: Re: Trail Braking   Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:23 pm

Some cars do like to snap oversteer, and you don't want that. But, a nice, controlled oversteer is very nice to have.

Also, the course has to be considered. In a really tight course with multiple low-speed switchbacks you might want to err toward a slight understeer, as low speed oversteer gets really "choppy" at times. You nearly come to a stop to control it if it gets out just a tad too much. With sweeping corners I'd always prefer oversteer.

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